Coach's OATs

[John A. Casler]

Hi All,

I came across this product called Coaches Oats at of all places COSTCO, but they no longer carry them



But they are great when serve with my own BIO-FORCE recipe:

• One serving Coaches Oats
  
• Peanuts
  
• Walnuts
  
• Pecans
  
• 1/8 cup Powdered Milk
  
• 1/3 cup Vanilla Protein Powder
  
• 1 cup (or as desired) Non-Fat Milk
  
  

1) Prepare oats
2) Add other ingredients (except NF milk)
3) Stir until well mixed
4) add NF Milk

Enjoy

This is a high protein, good fat, Good carb meal, (and I mean MEAL) it can be enjoyed anytime of the day, but take care to allow at least 1 hour before training.

Or experiment and come up with your own recipe, with fruits, and or other nutrients.

I just tried Micronized Creatine in todays batch ;D

Below is their website, and they can be ordered "on line".

[ftp]http://www.coachsoats.com/index.html[/ftp]

[killroy70]

I'm going to check out that website. I actually always start my day with a shake. It's usually:

2 scoops chocolate protein powder
1/2 cup lowfat cottage cheese
1 banana
1 Tbsp natural chunky peanut butter
2 Tbsps flax meal

Now, for the last 6 months or so I've been using John Berardi's "Precision Nutrition" system. There's a lot to his philosophy, but "essentially," it involves eating a LOT of vegetables, fruit, lean meats, and healthy fats. As far as sugar/starchy/complex carbs, they are restricted to before/during/and immediately after working out. Otherwise, they are off limits.

For instance, I might have gatorade powder + protein powder 30 minutes prior to working out, the same concoction during my workout, and then a large bowl of cereal (around 90 grams carbs worth) and 35 grams whey protein after working out. For the rest of the day, sugars and complex/starchy carbs are off limits. Only fruits and veggies allowed.

Now, recently, I've felt as though I had to add some more complex carbs back into my diet. So, I'm eating some whole wheat bread, shredded wheat, oatmeal, etc. during the day outside of the pre/during/post workout window.

I've had to back off my fat intake a bit and essentially substituted some fat calories for the increased carbs. We'll see how it pans out.

[John A. Casler]

Hope you like the Coaches if you try them.

I really can't say I have tasted them "by themselves", since I always put the nuts and Protien Pwdr in too.

I actually have it around 11:00 and train around 5:00.

Of late I have also been putting in 5g of Creatine Monohydrate to see if I need to take more, and daily, rather than just on weight training days.

[carruthersjam]

killroy70 said:

I'm going to check out that website. I actually always start my day with a shake. It's usually:

2 scoops chocolate protein powder
1/2 cup lowfat cottage cheese
1 banana
1 Tbsp natural chunky peanut butter
2 Tbsps flax meal

Now, for the last 6 months or so I've been using John Berardi's "Precision Nutrition" system. There's a lot to his philosophy, but "essentially," it involves eating a LOT of vegetables, fruit, lean meats, and healthy fats. As far as sugar/starchy/complex carbs, they are restricted to before/during/and immediately after working out. Otherwise, they are off limits.

How did you find the Precision Nutrition system - did you lose any bodyfat, gain muscle, lack energy etc?

Thanks

[killroy70]

Hey Jamie, sorry for the late reply.

I really like John Berardi's Precision Nutrition. Once you purchase the system, you are invited to join his message board, which has a lot of members, and can get help from various members of John's team as well as himself. Plus, there are a lot of bonuses - various training programs, etc..

Now, the approach taken is not a "one size fits all" approach. There are no percentages one is supposed to adhere to, such as 40% CHO, 30% protein, 30% fat, etc. Basically, he outlines what he feels is the best "way" of eating to optimize body composition as well as performance. With that said...

The general rule, as I stated in an earlier post, is that sugar/starch/comples carbohydrates are restricted to pre/during/ and immediately post workout. Now, I followed this diet religiously up until a few weeks ago when I started adding in more carbs throughout the day.

My experience over those 6 months was that I did indeed lose some bodyfat while maintaining my lean mass. However, I found gaining muscle a bit more difficult even though I ramped up my calories with lots of protein and extra fat. As far as fat goes, I was eating omega-3 eggs, olive oil, flaxseed oil, "enough" saturated fat from red meat and cheese, and boatloads of nuts - primarily almonds, walnuts, and natural chunky peanut butter (just peanuts - no salt, etc..). The only time I ate complex/sugar/starchy carbs was:

pre workout (gatorade powder + protein)
during workout (same)
and post workout - (4 servings of corn flakes [90 grams carbs] + 30 grams whey protein)

For the rest of the day, my "carb" selections usually consisted of:

spinach (LOTS)
broccoli
tomatoes
sugar snap peas
carrots
asparagus
brussel sprouts
(various other veggies, but the above were staples)

I also included some fruit (frozen mixed berries, apple, orage, and banana), but it was recommended to not "overdo it" on fruit outside of the pre-during-post workout window.

The carbs that I've outside of the workout-window over the last few weeks are:

100% whole wheat bread
slow cooking oatmeal
plain fat free yogurt
slow cooking brown rice
shredded wheat n' bran

With these additions, I've dropped some of the fat calories, especially in the meals which in include the above carbs. Now, despite dropping some calories from fat, with the carb additions, I'm eating more calories/day.

One noticeable effect from the addition of more cars is that my muscles "feel" fuller. I know that may sound odd, but only eating 150 grams of carbs/day (not counting veggies) left me feeling flat most of the time. And, as of late, I'm feeling more energetic during my workouts.

I'm absolutely NOT knocking Dr. Berardi's Precision Nutrition System. He states throughout the course that one, using his template, has to find the right dietary structure for their specific needs/genetics/etc.

I should ALSO note that, due to a pretty ridiculously hectic work schedule, I found that preparing meals to be quite a chore. You see, I live and work on my family's dairy farm, where we bottle our own milk and make ice cream. We own and operate 4 retail stores in Northeastern Pennslyvania, and I work long hours. Actually, since the warm weather kicked in early May, I've been putting in 70-85 hours/week, and that probably won't let up until mid september.

(lucky for me I had a weight room built behind my house a couple of years ago. getting to the gym would be tough!)

Now, Dr. Berardi goes give some really great tips on how to make the system work even when life gets hectic and you're pressed for time. And I doubt, if he were reading this, he would think that I was "going against his teaching." He would probably be pleased that I've been listening to my body and adjusting things as necessary. Right now, with John (Casler)'s help, I'm really making some progress training-wise. And with where I'm at right now, I want to focus on putting on some muscle (versus maintaining or losing weight). I wouldn't mind seeing a drop in bodyfat percentage as my bodyweight increases, and that's why I'm not slugging the calories in, but am slowly raising them until I start to see some consistent weight gain.

Ok, I'm rambling a bit now, hope I "sort of" answered your question!

Ken

[carruthersjam]

killroy70 said:

With these additions, I've dropped some of the fat calories, especially in the meals which in include the above carbs. Now, despite dropping some calories from fat, with the carb additions, I'm eating more calories/day.

One noticeable effect from the addition of more cars is that my muscles "feel" fuller. I know that may sound odd, but only eating 150 grams of carbs/day (not counting veggies) left me feeling flat most of the time. And, as of late, I'm feeling more energetic during my workouts.

Ken

Thanks for the thorough review Ken. You could also use alpha lipoic acid (300 mg before and after you train), creatine, cinnamon or vanadyl sulfate (30-45 mg) to increase glycogen stores (make your muscles "feel fuller").

[John A. Casler]

Just received a note from Coach and seems Costco in CA and HI will be carrying their Oats again.

Eat up.