An informative thread on El Darden's HIT Forum

[John A. Casler]

Hi All,

Ellingtom Darden of Nautilus HIT fame has a HIT Forum which I post to rather frequently, since I feel HIT as a key training element has far more relevance than it has been getting.

Plus I feel this Rogue HIT program schematic is an "extension" of or Progression of taking the HIT definition to the next level.

Here are a couple threads that I have poste to, complete with a few
"anti" BIO-FORCE (which is my screen name) posts.

While it is interesting to note some of the fear of some who feel their "training paradigm" threatened, it generally also offers an opportunity to explain, various parts that many have questions on.

Right now this is not a "commercial" program, meaning that unless I am in a commerical contract with a group or individual, I don't charge for it.

Eventually I will finish a "full and official" training course, and will offer it for sale, this is a ways in the future under my present schedule.

For some of the threads, look here:

Super and DIRECT Compenation

www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do?id=443595&pageNo=0

[killroy70]

John,

I've read most of the posts over the last couple of days. As seems to be the norm with many "true HIT" forums/message boards, I see a lot of hostility. I used to post to Dr. Darden's site a WHILE ago - tried logging in but can't remember my screen name/password. In looking over some workout logs from years ago, I implemented some "standard HIT" protocols that I worked for nearly a year. These were HIT programs gleaned from the old Cyberpump.com site (which used to be free). Most of my workouts were 1-2 exercises/bodypart, full body workouts, mostly one set to failure in the 8-12 rep range. I saw that there were times I bumped up to 2 sets when my reps dropped to 6, but I tried to stay as "true" to HIT as I could at the time.

From my personal experience, I saw that I would make good steady progress for a while, but once I platued, it seemed necessary to change exercises. Now, from looking at my workout logs, I didn't just plateau and scrap the workout - I was conversing at the time with some "HIT gurus" from the HIT Digest email list (when it had a lot of members and lots of posts), and I implemented forced reps, heavy negatives, less frequency, etc. in order to bust through the plateau. The tatics used worked to an extent, but any further gains achieved seemed to peter out pretty quickly.

Using Rogue HIT, and only changing exercises when I've had form issues, I've been steadily progressing for nearly 13 weeks now. No mental/physical burnout. No apparent CNS fatigue/overtraining. I look forward to the challenge of the workouts. I also really enjoy challenging myself in the vastly different rep ranges. For example - in dips, right now I'm after BW+45 for 30 reps and BW+115 for 5 reps. Quite a range there.

It's funny, I think a lot of the guys trashing you on the darden forum would be incredibly surprised at the gains they'd make in strength and hypertrophy using your program.

I haven't posted much as far as LBM gains, but I have gained a significant amount of muscle on your program in, what is for me, a VERY short time.

[John A. Casler]

Hi Ken,

Yes the "hostility" is pretty incredible, and also incredibly "juvenille".

The ring leader is not even training HIT, and is an admitted "steroid user" (not that I hold that against him).

Strangely enough, I am a pretty big supporter of "INTENSITY" and recognize that it "IS" an important element to training and should be explored, and integrated as a valuable quantified training element.

Too bad some of the group have such a childish response.

I have received a rather large amount of Private Message Mail, from those saying that they are very apprecietive of my posts, and the contents.

I certainly do not mind "questioning" posts, since they offer opportunity to more fully explain the system, but a couple of those guys are just not interested, but more focused on "word play", and innuendo.

I must admit, it is difficult to refrain from a more agressive response, but I feel the high road is a better path.